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dworkin, “right wing women” graphic

March 24, 2011

this is from RWW in the “anti-feminism” chapter.  i wanted to prepare everyone for my RWW part 3 post…which could easily be like 5 more posts because the last half of the book was freaking awesome, and so jam-packed with quality material that i am having a hard time paring it down.

anyway, this circle represents “the condition of women” currently.  the “heart of pornography” means that “womens nature,” and “what women are for” is sex.  when a woman is penetrated, it is seen as in her nature to be penetrated, even if she is harmed.  it is not mens nature to be penetrated, so when a man is penetrated, it is seen as against his nature, even if he isnt harmed.  also, any “power” women have is reduced to her “sexual power” to seduce men.

the middle are the crimes against women, by men.  its part of the condition of women, as a sexual class.  these are all womens daily reality.

the “wall of prostitution” keeps women in.  i am still working on this part, but i think she means that this is whats out there for women, its at the outer limit of what we are for, its a threat to all women who dont want to be prostitutes and fear it, to keep them in line.  to keep them making “other choices” so they dont end up there.  women who *are* there (prostituted women) are still within this system, since there is nowhere else to go; they also serve as a reminder to “the rest of us” of what awaits us, and they are the women who are sacrificed by both the right and the left, as a certain portion of the sex-class *must* be available to do “sex-work”.  this is not seen as unnatural, at all.  due to “the heart of pornography.”  what women are for.

stay tuned for RWW part 3.

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14 Comments
  1. Jilla permalink
    March 24, 2011 1:25 pm

    Does marriage come in under “economic exploitation”? Very little to separate it from prostitution. Same entree, different sauce.

  2. FAB Libber permalink
    March 24, 2011 1:44 pm

    i think she means that this is whats out there for women, its at the outer limit of what we are for, its a threat to all women who dont want to be prostitutes and fear it, to keep them in line. to keep them making “other choices” so they dont end up there.

    Yes, the “other choices” for women are to align herself with one Nigel (for protection/support), but the deal is that she is the personal property and prostitute and domestic servant of that one Nigel.

    Conservative women have to “other” prostituted women, because otherwise they would come to the realisation that their own personal ‘deal’ is based on sexual and reproductive prostitution, with free domestic slavery thrown in. *nice*

    Librul women who buy into the ‘sexual empowerment’ and who believe the sexual revolution crap, are trying to dismantle the master’s house using the master’s tools. It is a game set by teh menz, and you cannot win by that strategy. In one way or another, it will bit you on the ass, figuratively or literally. Choosing the choosy choice of giving “it” up [sex] is also a form of barter for harm reduction (rape avoidance), because on some level they know the number of rapist-assholes out there, they just won’t admit it. It is trying to get out of rape and sexual service via a loophole, the loophole of saying “yes”.

    The sex pozzies of course use the trapped prostituted women, wanting to keep them there as some sort of sacrifical pool to protect “other women” from rape, again knowing but not admitting the number of rapist-assholes out there. The strategy does not work, given the rape culture we live in, and freely available prostituted women.

    At the end of the day, nearly all menz see all women as prostitutes, all that varies is the price tag and the timescale of the arrangement. Rape is just the game they [menz] play for getting it for nothing. So neither marriage nor prostitution nor even sexual availability will ever stop rape or the exploitation based on the sex class.

  3. Jilla permalink
    March 24, 2011 1:59 pm

    Fab your comment reminds me, again, of Witchy Woo’s post about sex poz women and their empowerment built on a foundation of women who have no choice, no route of escape. Nothing to barter but their bodies. No law school fall-back.

  4. N/A permalink
    March 24, 2011 2:24 pm

    re the “wall of prostitution” keeping women in — that’s just the literal truth in so many ways.

    the concept of “char-dawari” (four walls) lies strong and deep in almost everyone’s psyche here in pakistan. they may not be conscious of it but it does – because society is constantly reinforcing this message in so many ways.

    women are supposed to stay in the home. period.

    prostitutes are supposed to stay in the walled city (lahore’s red light district). period.

    it helps men compartmentalize.

    this is something fcm’s post on menergy really got me thinking about. there are “these women” here, and “those women” there and they are two different KINDS of women. and the walls separate them. the walls of every building separate what is MINE from what is OTHER, the PRIVATE from the PUBLIC, the PROSTITUTES from the WIVES.

    it necessarily precludes a holistic, communal way of living, which suits women far more, physically and emotionally. it leaves no room for sharing (ideas, material, love) ESPECIALLY between women. and the men just keep compartmentalizing and compartmentalizing and compartmentalizing. (especially when it comes to “good” vs “evil” – a dichotomy that suits them especially because then they can point to the evil men out there versus the good men in here, which we know is total bs.)

    and the conservative, right-wing women even here have to hold on even more desperately to this dichotomy, to these walls – BECAUSE they are so fragile, and easy to break down. and because women are constructed the way these walls are constructed (through men’s psyches and expectations), if they were to come crumbling down so would the women.
    (not always and not completely of course, but in a general sense, if you get what i mean.)

  5. yttik permalink
    March 24, 2011 4:09 pm

    I think the way we are so compartmentalized, as N/A points out, is the reason the oppression continues. The wives are kept from the prostitutes, so they don’t get to know each other and come together as one united female power. This compartmentalized system that keeps us from ever building solidarity and over throwing the system, continues even with feminism, because we have the libs, the rads, the second wavers, the third, the right, the left, dozens of little compartments and an active police force on each one. What’s been so frustrating about the trans issue is that the one issue that perhaps women could agree on, the reality of our biology, is apparently not something we can own either because as some fool said, “why should women be the ones who get to define womanhood?” So women are not allowed to agree and unite on even one part of our own identity.

    What I appreciate the most about Dworkin’s Right wing Women is the bridges she built, the way she shows that all of us, from prostitutes to right wingers, exist under this same system, and attempt to cope with it in different ways, but it’s all the same thing.

  6. Loup-loup garou permalink
    March 24, 2011 4:41 pm

    “Choosing the choosy choice of giving ‘it’ up [sex] is also a form of barter for harm reduction (rape avoidance), because on some level they know the number of rapist-assholes out there, they just won’t admit it. It is trying to get out of rape and sexual service via a loophole, the loophole of saying ‘yes’.”

    Reminds me of a discussion I read on a mainstream board a while back. A woman was unsure about whether or not she’d been raped. Her date, who wanted sex, had gotten between her and the door, and she was afraid that if she tried to push her way past him, he’d rape her. So she “consented” to sex to avoid that. The comments — many of them by women — were disgusting. “Well, did you learn your lesson? Don’t be a tease.” “You basically raped yourself.” “Just call it a one-night stand and move on with your life.” Unfuckingbelievable.

  7. FAB Libber permalink
    March 24, 2011 5:08 pm

    “why should women be the ones who get to define womanhood?”
    That was such a pisser, wasn’t it? Wasn’t that on the huge (first) twanz thread over at IBTP?

    The ‘compartmentalising’ as yttik explains, is just that tried and tested “divide and conquer” strategy. What’s even more effective on top of the ‘divide and conquer’ is the Big Sky Fairy watching you at all times, the invisible police to police women’s actions, so solitary women don’t even dare to come up with uppity ideas on their ownsome.

  8. Sargasso Sea permalink
    March 24, 2011 9:50 pm

    “What I appreciate the most about Dworkin’s Right wing Women is the bridges she built, the way she shows that all of us, from prostitutes to right wingers, exist under this same system, and attempt to cope with it in different ways, but it’s all the same thing.”

    Oh, yes. This concept is my touchstone.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again that I thank the universe for sending me to RRW straight away in my studies.

    Looking forward to the next installment, FCM!

  9. March 24, 2011 11:04 pm

    I don’t get the diagram (I don’t see why prostitution forms the outer perimeter because I don’t see a distinction between prostitution and battery, reproductive exploitation, etc.) . FCM I would love to see your own version of this diagram, you have a way of making things crystal clear.
    Love all the comments tho, mah sisters.
    I agree with Jilla about marriage.

  10. March 25, 2011 1:11 am

    ok i am still working through the graphic myself, and i realize i may have been too ambitious with the “wall of prostitution” idea. she talks alot about prostitution in the book, and has alot to say about it, but i think what she means here is mostly that “everything women do is within the bounds of prostitution.” there ISNT a distinction between these things, because prostitution encompasses all these things (logically, thats the point of having things INSIDE a circle). see the “this is what a glod looks like” post at my place for more fun with circles!

    she says “prostitution is the all-encompassing condition, the body trapped in barter, the body imprisoned in commodity.” does that help? also, DONT FRET if this isnt crystal clear just yet because she also diagrams this in 3-D! YES! i will post those tomorrow. and YES i will have created a graphic of my own before this is over.

  11. Jilla permalink
    March 25, 2011 4:39 pm

    And so somehow, will it make the distinction between the “body” meaning sexual commodification and the “body” meaning skill and doing something? Can’t think how to say it better, but I mean to circumvent that argument that we all sell our bodies to earn our livings which is always used to discredit this. Etc.

  12. March 25, 2011 11:09 pm

    well, if you think of PIV as female-specific harm, and prostitution as PIV-based (which it is, and so is rape, and so is porn) then there is simply NO WAY that this graphic/argument could be appropriated for a generic “labor-class” argument that includes men as the oppressed.

    dworkins title for this graphic is “the condition of women.” sometimes it helps to look at the title, because its a profound paring-down of an authors work, in her own words. her “intent” perhaps. anyway, i am posting the 3-D graphics now….

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